Monday, February 12, 2018

New Challenge--- Can you write how your Parents met?

New Challenge--- Can you write how your Parents met?

  Valentines Day is upon us.  That generally implies engagements and marriages, can you
write a report on how your parents met?  Even better if you have heard the story of how your Grandparents met.

  Thinking this would be a great topic to address in the next couple of days.  If you are on Facebook, post the story there. If you have a genealogical society post it there, definitely post it in your tree.

  By doing this, it will remind others to write down the memories also.

Dorothy Inez Hoffman JONES laughed as she told the story of meeting her husband. It seemed that her older sister had a horrid crush on him. So when one day their father brought him home for lunch while they were changing water lines, the following happened.

Mom and her Mother, Inez Mae Scott Hoffman and her 4 daughters were preparing tomatoes for canning.  They had 2 large tubs of tomatoes in water, one  batch in a dry tub.

Grandad, Cecil Lee Hoffman and my father rode up on horses from the water ditches they were working to have a bite of lunch. As they dismounted, apparently a comment was made by Grandma.
The girls were to get the sandwiches. My Aunt started to the house and grabbed my Mom, who knew she was to do it, and said she was going to do it.   Mom said she told her sister it was her chore. There in, Aunt attacked Mom.  Mom said she did not back down and ultimately her sister ended up in a tub of the water laden tomatoes.  Quite a mess.
Grandad told Mom to go get the sandwiches and Mom did.  Aunt had to bathe, she was covered in tomato sauce per say so was my MOM. But not near as bad.

The irony of this was Dad asked Grandpa lots about Mom after this incident, unknown to her.
Dad finally got up the nerve to ask for a date with her with approval of her Mom.  It was granted under strict instructions.

Mom was in High School struggling to read due to poor eye sight and finally she dropped from school and then Dad asked for her hand in marriage some time after that.  It was accepted with exceptions.  Another story some time. They were married 3 Sept 1938 and Dad died 12 April 1995.
Mom died 10 Jan 2011.

Ironic I can not remember the story of Great Grandparents but Grandad told me about his parents meeting and marriage. I was young and it didn't get written down or mentally retained. Once in awhile snatches of it comes back.  Maybe some day I will remember it all.

I can write about Grandad's marriage to Inez Mae Scott though it was quite an event and many people have heard it.  Some day maybe soon. It was an very exciting Wedding Day with lots of apprehension on Grandad's part.

Now our children know how their grandparents met around 1937. They also lived as distant neighbors in the community. Dad worked for Morris Thomas over the hills from Grandad's home.
Neighbors took turn working the water lines (ditches) that gave them water for crops and cattle.

Dad was Ray Dee Jones later Sr.  He was a descendant from Christopher Jones Jr of the Mayflower.
Mom was a descendant of Pocahontas.  The Huffman/Hoffman lineage via Higgins to Stout and back.

Sunday, February 4, 2018

Research------ HOW TO START by Susi Pentico

                                            How to Start by Susi  Pentico 2018


 1.    Look around your home for things given or saved.                                 
2.     Catalog what you have saved or were given
 3.    Put names on your Pictures
4.      Keep your data like you do taxes.
5.     Reach out to your living family members
6.     Ask them to share about themselves & their deceased members.
7.     Ask your children what they remember about an event.
8.     Ask your grandchildren the same questions.
9.      Everyone perceives things a wee different. 
10.   Write events you live daily on your calendar, great reference point.
11.   Ask some one to share research with you. (Two heads better than one)
12.   When speaking with elderly, give them food for thought, go back, later to see what the have      remembered. 

1.     Use forms for record keeping, computer and paper to start.
2.     Take a class if given on the methods of research. Both Computer and manual
3.     When one line blocks, it is time for a break.  It is amazing when a break is   given how much you see you missed.
4.     Have a back up device on computer for saving data on system.
5.     Look at the pros and cons of a cloud system for research. Ie My
6.      Use your library,
7.      Chula Vista Library on 4th and F has a Genealogical Section. It has for more than 20 years.
8.     Do as much as you can at home and locally before planning a trip.
Planning a Trip, that was written up nationally some years back ,will be presented soon. It is all still relevant.
9.      Look at the Law Library for land data and clues about information in Wills, Deeds and Probates.
10.  Not all information is on the Internet. Nor will it probably ever be.
               Family Group Sheet
           5 Generation Chart
           Research Log (for person, places and things)
              TimeLine Chart, so vital to keep track of what is missing
               Correspondence log of some sort, to keep up with data ie awaiting Death Certificate, Marriage            Record, Land Deed copies etc.
               Do your DNA. Do family members DNA             
               Medical knowledge for future generations.

8           Join a Society, even if you cannot make the meetings there is much information shared in their            newsletters an workshops and web page, especially areas where you are researching.

               If no Genealogical Society look for a Historical Society

            If all else fails contact the local library in the region of research and Chamber of Commerce.

Saturday, February 3, 2018

Information Just In For Your Research

Findmypast  has released this bulletin.

Thomas MacEntee sent this out.

This is from his webpage: Genealogy Bargains. 

FREE ACCESS at Findmypast to Birth, Marriage, Death and Census Records This Week

It says they are releasing records to help with Women for research.  


Thank you FINDMYPAST. 

Wednesday, January 31, 2018


   Workshop Presentation is on the topic of " How to Do Research."

1pm to 4 pm  Bonita-Sunnyside Library, in the Community Room, 4375 Bonita Road.

Why this topic you ask, because many are asking for assistance and their needs will hopefully be at least partially met.

Anyone can do research, but it is always better to learn what method may help you garner more
information easier and quicker.

There are many clues and many ideas out there on which way research is the best when doing.

Many years of practice has helped many hone their skills and we have learned to use some props to help us be more efficient.

We will discuss some of the props and some of the places and ways to be successful in this endeavor.

Bonita-Sunnyside Library

We look forward to seeing you and helping you learn more information to help in your research.

Please bring your lap top if you have one or I Pad?  A 5 Generation Chart, maybe a group sheet, &
a problem you may be having.

We will talk of how to keep track of your research, recording where you have or have not looked and many other topics relating to Research.

It is Free and Open to Any One.  IF you have not attended before that is okay come join us.
Especially if you work during the week and want some help with your data gathering, do come join us.

Tuesday, January 30, 2018

Guest Speaker: Margaret Lewis,, 31 Jan 2018 Noon to 2 pm

Come  to our CVGS meeting, tomorrow at the  365 F St. Civic Center Library, Chula Vista, CA.

Margaret Lewis (Marty) will be  talking on "EXPLORING YOUR DNA RESULTS"

Having attended many of Marti's orgainzations classes you really do not want to miss this.

When we go to her night classes in Mission Valley, we normally have riders go with us.

She is a very inspiring speaker and human.

She does much volunteer work such as "Find A Grave", and other events.

Marti's presentation will be “Exploring Your DNA Results Today - You Can Discover Who You Are, Where You Came From, and Analyze your Ethnicity with DNA Testing!”  

The presentation will take you on the journey Marti took to unravel the mysteries of her ancestors, and substantiate her Family Tree back to 1522.  Marti admits she is no DNA expert … she would just like to stress the importance of the strategies she uses with pedigree charts and on-line family trees to explore her DNA results to create her Family Tree.   

All meetings of the Chula Vista Genealogical Society are free to attend.  Visitors are welcome.  There will be a short business meeting, and refreshments, after the program presentation.

Monday, January 29, 2018

Family Search..... obviously with woes and joys.

  Family Search has really created an interesting platform.  Recently being asked by fellow genealogist how to remove her tree from the Family Search group and then learned from a very responsible person RS that you can not delete you work.

MMMmmm.  I have to concur with the person asking for help. I myself have just seen someone has again perpetuated an error in our Duvall tree.  For 25 years, we have attempted to correct it, posted on blogs and webpages and various sources with other Duvall family members,  all working to remove errors.

We thought we had finally conquered the beast. I clicked on a link from Family Search a few days ago and their it has risen its, erroneous ugly head. WHY WHY WHY.

So when the lady posted someone had connected a wrong tree to her site she asked me how to remove it.  Alas  RS says it can not be removed. It is her tree not ????

I would like to post RS answers but must ask him for permission first.

Giving people erroneous information helps no one NO ONE.

Being in the process of having my old back up drive hopefully opened and data retrieved, where most of our sources were listed and saved.  Going through old letter files maybe some of the data will resurface.  I know for a fact about 3 ways the Duvall data is WRONG.

Rev War records, family records, thinking as other cousins helped with this, it could be achieved.
Rootsweb is where we exchanged much data and they took it away. To save us they say.

I do not even have the names of all the researchers with the fact the back updrive died? or at least that is what Best Buy said.  Have found another facility will check to see if data can be retrieved awaiting return of the drive. More to follow.

So where are the joys.  I surely am not sure. If data on my lineage is erroneous how do we know there isn't massive errors on other lines too. RS says he must be diligent to have messes from happening.  Thinking I am going to pull back and keep on my computer genealogical program and maybe???? some day share with the world. World is definitely not ready for honesty.

After telling us suddenly in the 70's and 80's things need heavily sourced what is happening here.
Much I could have had Grandparents write in their own hand if that had been the case ditto for great grands and uncles and cousin of long ago.  YESK.

Alas some written in their hand, the US Government lost in moving us to Hawaii from San Diego. Almost all my Great Grandmothers letters. Letters hubby wrote to me, Letters from my Grandparents and dear family members that were already gone when we made that move, pictures of our new born daughter and her first trip to the zoo.  So much was lost in that large box.

Of course now it was a life time ago and yet people keep not being diligent.

Blessings and you all have fun.

I have to clear more boxes to see if I can find more back up information since drive is still down.
Cleared one more yesterday.

Saturday, January 27, 2018

Obituaries, where will you find them. ??

  It is so great to have others share their thoughts with us and remind us to remind others that things are not always where you think they are.

 Thomas Kemp wrote a blog post. Shown here, You should read.

But also you need to be aware of even more than what he has stated.  One of the biggest tips I received was in the ad section of a very old newspaper in Utica, NY.   The time period was 1830's 1840's as a JONES was migrating from Renssealer Co. Ny to Utica and later found in Allegany Co. NY.  

Yes it was  NOEL JONES, but none of the facts fit.  Had hoped I had found him.

But I will share that is a case study many need to read and grasp how the courts worked then.
Alas they worked like today.  I learned about 6 months ago the Judge who tried the court case regarding Noel Jones Will being falsified, was the then wife's Uncle.   It should have been thrown out for many reasons.  This NOEL JONES children got nothing due to changes she made after he Noel was laced with a drug, at her request and ultimately died.  They filed because of the drug.

The oldest child, a woman and siblings filed a petition to throw out the erroneous Will. The Judge allowed it even after the Doctor said it was wrong.  

Very interesting read to say the least.  If it was my ancestor he was treated so shabby it breaks my heart how humans act and have acted over the years.

The paper listed a Noel JONES and son lived in Utica from Petersburg? area b 1814?  The boy was to young to be Noyes b 1809 .   His name was different and there was no mother.  A long list of why this Noel JONES is not very likely to have been mine,  married to Susannah and my Noel recorded Noyes JONES birth in the town clerk records.  They also showed in the 1810 census.  

The 1820 census has the name NOEL JONES and the sons' age much much younger than Noyes and I have followed him out and it was not my Noyes.   Paper trail via newspaper led me to sw New York Allegany Co. and the nightmare that followed,  in his living in that area.

So if you are looking at a newspaper. Look at all the data in the newspaper.

Had a cousin that saved all old Greene Co. PA newspapers and the data we were able to pull from various sources was a snap.  Found in Selling column, buying, marriage, birth, death data, etc.  News of the day and just read it from beginning to end and do not miss a clue.

Thomas Kemp thanks for reminding me to tell people that newpsapers have more data than most people are aware of.